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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2003 11:09 pm    Post subject: The High Council Reply with quote

The High Council

After some heavy discussion about the formation of this guild, this is FINALLY official.

The High Council is a selected group of people who will commit themselves to mantain ORDER and LAW in the grounds of Dysotopia.
Unlike other guilds, we will not be fighting Evil or Good or worshippers of a given deity... we will be fighting CRIME.

The High Council will be constantly watching for law infractors.
After these are captured, they will be given the right to a trial and their fate will be decided by a group judges who will not have any contemplations about who the suspects are, where they come from or in which guild they are.
Everyone will be treated equally.

If they are found guilty, they will be punished accordingly.

The target of our watch will be homicides, thefts and disturbance of peace. (OoC. we will only deal with IC situations).

We believe this will finally bring some order to our beloved island.



We are now recruiting

We will be recruiting people for our cause in the next days.
If you believe in law, order and justice, contact us. (OoC. either in the game or by PM)
With your help we can make of Dysotopia a better place to live in...


For Order and Justice


/Isendur Vortmox "The Dark" - Founder of The High Council
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2003 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You knwo it doesnt really make sense for you to protect the laws when

1. You were given nothing to set laws for
2. King Geshtal has not given any sort of approval
3. Operating without the approval of an official will mean when u kill or Try someone for breaking the law, you yourself will be breaking the law.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2003 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are not official law enforcers.
We will act at our own risk...

As for the King, I do believe he wont have any problems with a group of people HELPING him.

And please stop questioning this project. You've made your point... now please stop bothering who is trying to do something usefull.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yawn Yawn another we good you bad we know best we enforce Law.

Yawn Yawn another excuse for I want to have power and position and do something usefull FOR ME

If you dont like the Law petition the King to change it dont take it into your own hands said before say again THATS ARROGANCE

And you silly little boy no Im not scared or worried or nervous about you
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You (Glorin, M-K) are followers of the prince of lies, Cyric, and everything that you say is tainted with his influence. We don't wish to change the law, we wish to enforce it. -- Malak Kalam
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prince of lies is yourself where do I follow Cyric ??? nope checked not my diety...Get the facts straight not your pre conceptions not your half truths not your bias.
The questionis simple how can you enforce the Law if you are outside it all Vigilantes claim thet are acting within the Law.Show me your charter to enforce the Law show me that you have been selected to a Legal organization that is empowered by authority and ill be quiet.You cant you are just Vigilantes that is totally un lawfull so Stop Prince of Lies claiming to be what you cannot by definition which is Lawfull..if you were you wouldnt even consider setting up such a group thats raison detre is simple retribution.


Get your slander and lies right before you throw them around please.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm growing sick of your complaints...
Your words are useless... havent you noticed that?

OF COURSE we're not officially entitled to do this job? So what? We are still doing it! And that, my friend, is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

We will enforce the law, and we will punish all those who break them. Simple... we WONT BE MAKING THE LAWS, we are ENFORCING THEM...get that inside your thick skull!
Besides, it should be EVERYONE'S duty to make sure that the law is respected.

Now please, stop your foolishness once and for all...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as co-founder i will make sure this does not turn in to a mad "cleansing" as such


this orginzation is to make sure thoese who break law's are punished

we are working on the kings backing
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well seeing as its not an IC post i dont see where the prince of lies would come into play.

but on better thought i think its about time a chaotic good organization came about, tho even if u are helping u must realize u are breaking the law by taking it into your hands, but thats something we need, there are no chaotic good orgs around really.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um not to burst your bubble or anything ecto but the individual town guards uphold laws to each town and The OSB does a sort of generic overview to uphold the laws as well. Your guild is kind of redundant and at this point there are getting to be as many guilds as players...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This one's quite different Scorp... believe me...
Just wait and see... icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While the Order of the Shining Blade welcomes the move of various individuals and organizations to step in line with the wishes and purview of the King, it must also caution at the difference between handling matter of the law and acting purely as vigilantes. The OSB operates under the behest and aegis of the King, in conjuction with the appointed and legitimate nobles and governments of the land. As I have said before ... we approach things from the direction of trying to negotiate and mediate problems to avoid battle, not to let steel do the talking unless forced to do so. At issue, however, is the fact that so many organizations feel that the only means to an end are via the end of a blade and in the face of such abject bloodlust there is not much we can do other than to offer mediation and do so if asked or otherwise report to the King that the natives are bent on a path of destruction that cannot be stemmed without an organized Royal Army.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think The High Council will bring some GREAT RP possibilities... but that's of course IF people are willing to start RPing once and for all... icon_confused.gif

Like I said.. wait and see emot-yum.gif
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I don't know what you mean by "punish" people who break the law. If you imprison them, you are guilty of kidnapping (assuming it's against the law) and have broken it yourself. If you kill them, you are guilty of murder and have broken the law yourself. What sort of measures will you be taking?

Also don't you think "High Council" is kind of a grandiose name? I don't believe "Merry Men" is taken.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok people... this is starting to get annoying...
This is an OoC chat, and some of you are bringing up IC issues...

This guild will bring MANY Role Playing possibilities, judging from all the discussion that has been around its formation...
If you guys dont agree with it IC, then ROLE PLAY it... be against it IC, but please, dont start cussing about it OoC...

The High Council is not going to be an OFFICIAL law enforcement organization... thus, it's going to have to break some laws... it's the price we'll have to pay...

I actually didnt see you guys saying things like "its against the law" or "you're breaking the law" when the LGoG was being formed!!!
I mean, OoC we all know they're evil and they that they will possibily break every law there is to break... but its part of RP, and they will actually be giving the law enforcers and the defenders of Good some work to do...

It's the same with us... We are here to enforce the law, although we are not entitled to do it... it's not hard to find examples of this... (take the godamn A-Team for example.. LOL).
There will be two major possibilities for this: 1) the officials will accept us as their helpers and we will work toghether with a common goal; 2) the officials will NOT accept us, and we'll be doing our work with the guards on our tails...
IS THAT SO BAD?

Like i said... many of your CHARACTERS will be against it... But then BE AGAINST IT... but IN CHARACTER...


It's just another addition to our RP experience...

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Also don't you think "High Council" is kind of a grandiose name? I don't believe "Merry Men" is taken.


This was a poor commentary... picking on a guild's name is about as low as you can get...
We could have called ourselves "Snow White and the seven dwarves".. it would still be none of your business icon_wink.gif
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PostWed 02/05/03 12:17pm
Yawns profusely......rolls over and falls asleep ...ahh the tedium  Reply with quote
 
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Our guilld symbol for the tHe hIgh Council is
-=(HIC)=-

What can I say, I'm in a bad mood emot-yum.gif
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LOL
That would be more like.. Ogt's guild.. hehe emot-yum.gif
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A guild that is there to enforce law with no official rights ? Sounds weird ... also I heard that you are recruiting some very nice players (guess who?) ...
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We have guilds that do good and help ppl.
We have guilds that do evil and war.
Do we really need anymore of them? No.

*catches thrown blanket*

I completely agree with M-K.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its sad to see people that have been around for so long have this kind of attitude towards these iniciatives...
Fortunately, not everyone around here is like you guys..

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Do we really need anymore of them? No.



Who are you to say what the mod needs and do not need?
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My point exactly... icon_confused.gif  Reply with quote
 
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I agree quite explicitly there is nowhere for a good character to turn when he or she has been offended except for the blade. Not everybody wants to be hostile, this will allow for a peaceful way to end scuffles. Here I would like to point out the character of Messiah and Nel, they have both done a great job of this recently. Twice peace has been achieved diplomatically rather than forcefully. It is an additional RPing outlet for characters such as Nei who plays more of a pacifist. It allows for lawful alignments to well, follow the law when justice is needed. Let the project go forth, if it survives and adds to the game then great, if it fails, then it fails and so be it.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am pleased to inform that The High Council is now officially functioning...

From now on, we will be enforcing the law in the lands of Dysotopia in hope to make it a peacefull and lawfull place.

Feel free to contact any member of this Council to report any violation of the Law, and we shall deal with it in the most fair and just way possible.


For Order and Justice

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Yea!! Perhaps you should post a list of our members Isendur so that people know who to look for.  Reply with quote
 
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List of current members of The High Council

- Isendur the Dark
- Malak Kalam
- Reverend Kurgan
- Nei
- Nel
- Jord
- Sand
- Belnoroth Dendralen
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Please Note:

Any comment made by the High Council that they have or will soon have the power to jail or fine is nonsense. If one is made please tell a Mod.

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PostFri 02/14/03 6:53pm
Actually, the power to jail is nonsense, the power to fine not, since they can always say that they want money, simple as that.  Reply with quote
 
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Actually Uin, you're missing an important point here... this is a RP server... and if people are willing to RP (which unfortunatly, doesnt happen much) we can perfectly jail and fine people... jail keys and things like that wouldnt be necessary if people went along with the game....
but NNOOOO... they just want to powergame their way to the top, and be the best around...

If people learned how to cooperate and RP like they should, this would be a lot more fun...

Unfortunatly, a lot of people are not willing to "waste" their time on that, and they actually dont get any encouraged to do it by those who should be encouraging it.

Being a law breaker and getting caught is part of the game... but people just want the "law breaking part"... the other one's too boring, it seems...
Why the heck should people be kicked or banned from the server, if a lot of the cases can be taken care of IC?
Can't we try to do that? Can't we Play our Role?


This is supposed to be fun, people... that's what Gesh wants... that's what all of us want...
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