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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2003 2:27 am    Post subject: Some miscellaneous pking Reply with quote

As I was standing there, Drem kept casting dispell on us, so I warned him about how dispelling people is impolite and a form of aggression. He kept doing it, so after I rested and got my true seeing back, I ran after him with the intention of telling him to stop and BAM, finger of death. Lost around 2k xp right there.

I'd like to know why he did that.
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PostThu 05/08/03 2:32am
Drem is just like that. He was doing it in Eleriina North while we were all having fun out there last night.  Reply with quote
 
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At least you died in Eleriina North. I had the unfortunate pleasure of dying in Kravenwood Lowlands.  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2003 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm... I've noticed this person before...
He was together with a higher level wiz or sorc who kept softening up slaads or devourers so Drem could kill em for high xp. Now if that isn't powergaming I don't know what is..
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2003 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooh ooh! Why isn't this reported to tha moderators? It's kinda tough to do something about this person if we don't get a report. icon_confused.gif
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2003 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe he's trying to get a response from this person, giving them a chance to defend themselves before calling the mods on them...

note the maybe.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2003 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, ok. But...isn't that our job or something? We get the report, then talk to the accused aswell as the accusor? Discuss a bit...then come to a conlcusion and all.

Nevermind.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2003 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah really... people seem to have lost all faith in the moderators...

REPORT THINGS TO MODERATORS!! If you don't know who they are, check the post from GorbGuy in the Official Announcements forum.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2003 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

going completely off topic - how about setting up some authorities that he could talk to, "this guy attacked me for no reason, throw him in jail!" sort of people. I've heard of them elsewhere, I think they were refered to as "guards" or even "police"
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2003 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the link in my signature! That's the GameSpy names though...but I'll add the link to the forum names aswell.

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2003 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I was with Anuiron. I have no idea if he's a full mod or not, but he didn't think it was worth reporting, so I let it slide.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2003 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gave him the IC reason. and it was not Powergameing. I could have killed them myself since we were partied for some of it the XP was trash anyways.

and Drem is a female choatic gnome, the Dispell was all part of her IC, if you were in combat I wouldnt have.

you shot spells at me when as you called it attempting to tell me to stop you even killed someone with a horrid wilting that was aimed at me.

as I said selfdefense
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PostThu 05/08/03 11:13am
riiiight, and I'm a chaotic wizard, horrid wilting is part of my IC. As I said, self defense.  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2003 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GOOD GOD!!!

This is a GAME people! There are many opportunitities to kill if you want to or run if you don't want to be killed!

Dysotopia is a PVP server last time I checked. The day I started playing Dyso I couldn't BELIEVE that no one tried to PK me when I encroached on their hunting grounds or something like that. Nope, they just woosied out and went somewhere else. Bleh. I was hoping for some action even if I got killed. Oh well.

If you don't have the stomach for PK'ing, then either push for the server to go non-PVP (like some of the the OSB and a few lame moderator/DMs appear to be doing in a hypocritical manner)... or play on one that already is non-PVP!!!

If you say, "it was poor role play," well, that's just lame 'cause we are all guilty of that. If you say... there was absolutely NO role play involved and when I questioned the player OOC, they told me to just buzz off with NO explanation... THEN I would say they are quilty of foul PK'ing!!!

Will someone please tell me the point of PVP if PK is so HEAVILY frowned upon!!??
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2003 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a ROLEPLAY server. When roleplaying, you should be able to kill someone when you have reasons to do it IN CHARACTER. Therefore, it is pvp. PKing without proper in character reasons is NOT roleplay. Simple as that.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2003 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right... it is an RP PVP server. So then we agree, Kindo. But who will define "proper" RP of a PVP PK? You? Me? The one who is killed? I trust Conrad to make these judgements after reading his post. I cannot say I currently trust anyone else with DM and Mod powers after reading their posts here, or perhaps I say the lack of posts on PK. So far, Conrad is the only one who has shown firm support for RP PK.

BTW- I happened into one of the (DM/Mod-ladened) OSB's little "click" grooves late the other night in Eleriina. I overhead talk about the player (not character) types that they consider acceptable on Dyso. Anything remotely evil was scorned. Before I could catch much more, I was promptly and sternly asked to leave the area so they could finish their little pow-wow. Sheesh... I was at the general store in in Eleriina, for crying out loud! No doubt the OSB has gotten too haughty.
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Ha! Ha! I haven't bathed in a week... who would want to hug this stink bug?

JK!!!

Well, it would just be nice to know, for instance, that when my charachter is out hunting the Minotaur Cheiftan in Anton's Scape (he believes the Cheiftan gets the best steaks!), he can run off other characters from his hunting ground... and if they refuse to leave, they will perish! In my mind, that is proper RP. To the person getting killed, it is not... I just don't understand, I guess. What's more... the only other characters that go out there are likely to be effortless and easy to my level 17. So I guess I can't PK them anyways... so much for RP. Maybe I'll just make a new character... or look for another server that fits my style. When I started Dyso, it fit my style... but it seems certain powers on Dyso are taking a strong position against PVP kills... RP'ed or not. I for one look forward to the confrontations, even if my character is the victim. It can add to the intrigue, plot, and challenge of the game!
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2003 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think she killed him coz he was using time stop....and everyone hates Time Stop...OOC and IC...
i aint sayin it was right or wrong...im just saying why...
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2003 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never use timestop except fighting Xavier and such. Except only once when I raced Bulbo.

Also, interpreting RP PK as acceptable is not entirely loophole-less. If someone says, "My char is a maniac and kills people." That would be his IC. And if all day long he lvls and kills other people, WHAT is the difference between that and Diablo 2?
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2003 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, when I was killed, I didn't really feel what RP was going on. I was just KILLED. That's it.

Now I'm not ranting. I wanted to know if that character who killed me had some kind of a story to back it up.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2003 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Besides, if someone is sicked of Timestop, even though I WAS NOT DOING, wouldn't it be better to give an OOC msg or an IC msg instead of just KILLING?
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raven wrote:
Also, when I was killed, I didn't really feel what RP was going on. I was just KILLED. That's it.

Now I'm not ranting. I wanted to know if that character who killed me had some kind of a story to back it up.


and I told you why in game so why bring it up on the forums
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Raven wrote:
Also, when I was killed, I didn't really feel what RP was going on. I was just KILLED. That's it.

Now I'm not ranting. I wanted to know if that character who killed me had some kind of a story to back it up.


and I told you why in game so why bring it up on the forums



Once again I gave him an IC reason in game so why would it have to be a forum issue it was not PKing I was RPing my chaotic he attacked I attacked back. end of story
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you two should give me some GOLD and call it even.......  Reply with quote
 
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You attacked first. Besides, I don't even care anymore.

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Seems like someone is lying. To put a stop to this discussion, we just decide to ban both of ya, ok?  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i think she killed him coz he was using time stop....and everyone hates Time Stop...OOC and IC...



Sure everybody does, and whos character knows if a timestop is cast?
Unless you can identify the spell with some spellcraft

Conclusion being, she killed him for OOC reason and OOC reasons only

If TS was the reason at all that is
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