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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 5:48 am    Post subject: Level 20 Reply with quote

heres a good Idea to Promote Rp in level 19s

Level 20 should only be reachable through RP.........

thats pretty much it.........

you know like RP the Dm notices you get Xp......

this way you can stop the Level 19s from being in the Crypts or Topaz Caverns all the time raiseing spawns to the point of where several spawn at once...... killing others who are in the areas.
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PostFri 05/09/03 6:48am
Heh, I was advocating that levels 16-20 should only be reachable through RP.  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only problem is that a DM cannot be around the level 16-20 guy 24/7. So luck would be an important factor...not sure if that's a good thing. In any case, I don't like the smacktards that "don't RP 'til level 20".
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm RPing at level 4. I just wish that I had a nice high level so that I could be in topaz quarry, as that seems to be where all the good quest action is going on.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really think that once a person gets to lvl 15, they could only level up with RP...
Only DMs would give XP to character of levels 15+.
I mean... damn... level 15 is a very high level!!! only a few lucky and hard working guys should ever be able to get to 20!

This way, people were sure to RP...
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or....you could make it so lvl 19 you only get 1 exp each for taking a glather lord (or whatever gives the most exp) alone...

*thought* hmm since i'm currently lvl 17 did i just $crew myself?
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

16 and over should only be obtainable by quests imo, but developing those AND implementing them (and making em exploitfree) is a time-consuming effort.
Perhaps someone could write up a few nice quests for those levels and send em to DM's/Brian for consideration?
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

at level 5 devs and skellies give 5 xp

^.^ here is somethign that is used on another server..... dont call me crazy cause I know no one ever abuses them on the server where they are...... XP reward wands each player gets one and cannot be used on your self........ the catch to peopel just useing it on eachother is if htey are used to much to often on people in your party or even out of your party the database boots and bans for I think its like a day..........

maybe such a thing could be used in rebirth since it will be Application
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool idea. Unfortunatelly won't work on thsi Dyso (not until I'm super mega-dictator atleast, and have gotten rid of the lamers). But yeah, might be cool on rebirth. That way DM's won't have to be around all the time to reward nice RP.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speakng of level 20, I can't remember the name but someone FINALLY hit level 20!!!!!! Hurray!!!!! icon_mrgreen.gif
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Kindo
PostFri 05/09/03 12:44pm
I know. It's the one having 17/1/2 in Cleric/Fighter/Rogue. Ticked me off.  Reply with quote
 
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PostFri 05/09/03 12:47pm
Shut up Kindo. icon_evil.gif  Reply with quote
 
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Oh yeah, almost forgot. Magic and air domains.  Reply with quote
 
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PostFri 05/09/03 12:52pm
As long as she worships Talos/akadi/Umbrlee... then its OK.  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talos: Chaos, destruction, evil, fire, storm
Akadi: Air, Illusion, Travel, Trickery
Umberlee: Chaos, Destruction, Evil, Ocean, Storm, Water

So... rotz.gif

And alignments:
Talos: CE, CN, NE
Akadi: CN, LN, NE
Umberlee: CE, CN, NE

So... rotz.gif again, since the character in question is Lawful Good.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I'm trying to RP somewhat, but I might not be the best knock yo socks off RPer but at least I try, which is saying alot more than some people, it just gets tedious after about 30 minutes, you need to do something and go on adventures and have some fun other than talking, but killing adventures (basically leveling) is not what I really want, I want epic quests and adventures, not just bashing trolls in the name of rp... anyway... whatever
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or maybe they just have a really good RP reason for it.

Did you ask them?

Or are you just assuming that someone can't be multiclassed with Air and Magic with an actual good reason?

"I started out a thief (Rogue level 1,2). But I saw that I was a good in combat, and therefore decided to take up arms defending people (Fighter). Then one day, I was enlightened by a God, and ever since have followed their Way (Cleric)."

Yes, they are probably powergaming. But you can either bitch about it, or have fun with it. And let thee who is without sin cast the first flame.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maelstrom696969 wrote:

Yes, they are probably powergaming. But you can either bitch about it, or have fun with it. And let thee who is without sin cast the first flame.


Quote of the day folks.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look, getting XP from RPing is ok for some of you. But for some people it just wont work. I have been in several DM events and i have only got 800xp from them all in total, how am i ment to reach lvl 20 with 800xp every 3 months? Sorry but i dont think its a good idea...
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I'd have to agree with AliC1. I play a CN Barbarian. According to some of what I read, CN (especially Barbarian half-orc types) prefer to work alone and are distrustful of organizations and shy from mobs (unless they are hired to disperse them). As such, I have been in all of 2 DM events since coming to Dyso 6 weeks ago... and those were purely by circumstance. I get in plenty of RP... just not where throngs of people can witness it (or at least not the "right" ones anyway).

So, I disagree because certain characters RP'ed well (in my opinion) would not be in a position in Dyso to join in on DM events.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Malakalam, lvls 16-20 should only be attainable through RP. Actually that's a damn good idea cos then the powergaming monsters would never reach lvl 20, and those people who are lvl 20 will be so because they are good RP'ers icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, Cherrn, how can people who RP loners expect to get XP? Or would only those who make themselves "visible" to DMs be able to advance? DMs are far too busy to keep up with everyone and this idea would put a bigger burden on them! Just a thought.
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PostFri 05/09/03 11:08pm
i dont like how u can get to lvl 20 easily now as now i (griff) has to rewrite the Tortue Script to better fit the new system...  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh come on, Glorin, we already know you've gotten to level 20 and even beyond with the new system, ya big cheater.

Trust me, guys, I saw him in the crypts the other day, and when I did an examine on him, it said you're level 23, man!
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So, Cherrn, how can people who RP loners expect to get XP?


If this system is to be applied, DMs will become more active and won't be giving XP only to people that participate in BIG EVENTS... a DM can see you alone in some place and create a situation for you... OR... a DM can see YOU create a good RP situation, and award you XP for that... it's quite simple...

At least this way, we're sure to have some RP... and only those who RP will get to level 20... it's brilliant! icon_mrgreen.gif
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maelstrom696969 wrote:
Oh come on, Glorin, we already know you've gotten to level 20 and even beyond with the new system, ya big cheater.

Trust me, guys, I saw him in the crypts the other day, and when I did an examine on him, it said you're level 23, man!


rofl, actually i'm level 15
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PostSat 05/10/03 2:28pm
What are you saying requires, say, 1 dm per 2 players. We don't have that many DMs. Even if we did, I don't think they will be on all the time.  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And we'll have to quantify RP. How do we do that? What makes this guy earn more XP by RP than the other guy? Was it something he said? Something he did? Something that he is? How do we quantify it?
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, Raven. In order for this idea to work effectively and fairly, there would need to be a much higher DM-to-Player ratio so that no one is overlooked! There would also need to be some sort of scale for quantifying the amount of XP that is given for certain types of RP. That would be very difficult as RP can vary greatly and categorizing certain actions, behaviors, and dialouge into RP-Types would be problematic. That is why the bulk of XP is acheived by defeating monsters/creatures. It provides a system whereby the acquisition of XP can be standardized.

Currently, XP obtained from DM events and random RP is considered "bonus" XP and rarely exceeds any appreciable amount (based on what I hear and have seen). It is likely far less XP than one can lose in a single death event at higher levels. It is perhaps also less XP than one can gain by "power gaming" for an amount of time equal to the average duration of DM events (maybe? I really don't know... just going by what I've heard from others).

The idea itself is to be commended, but it just doesn't seem realistic in an operational sense.

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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm from what i've read so far here is 2 ideas,

#1 i've been in several DM quests and they are great fun, but no one knows when they are happening...so when they start all should be invited to participate and those who wish can play....not jus tthe largest party or the most conveniently placed.....
#2 for high level exp and leveling there should be a place (like gloth) opened up for level 17 and higher with enemies that require group effort...that would get the higher levels out of areas....cause ive found that dyso is a little old after 14 hours of skellie bashing just for 4000 xp....make the xp harder to get not by lowering the amount but by increasing monster difficulty... icon_cool.gif
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