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Shadows of Undrentide Gone Gold! (General Topic)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm thats a little strange, if not unfair. I think the admins should have the option to upgrade to 1.30 for the bugfixes and such, yet leave the mod unflagged for SoU.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's from the BioWare patch page:

AS OF THIS PATCH, ALL MODULES CREATED/SAVED WITH THE VERSION 1.30 TOOLSET ARE TAGGED AS REQUIRING VERSION 1.30 OR HIGHER OF NEVERWINTER NIGHTS GAME OR TOOLSET. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BRAND YOUR MODULE AS 1.30 THEN DO NOT EDIT YOUR MODULE IN THE VERSION 1.30 TOOLSET.
IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO 1.29, USE THE 1.30 TO 1.29 UNINSTALL BELOW.

added compatibility for 1.30 SoU clients connecting
added Hobgoblin and Pit Fiend creatures
added 50+ scripting commands
added scripting database access
stability improvements
improvements to network performance
cheat/hack prevention

So 1.30 will work with just NWN, but it'll require all clients to have at least 1.30

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PostTue 06/17/03 2:38pm
Well i guess that's that then icon_sad.gif  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sep wrote:
Hmm thats a little strange, if not unfair. I think the admins should have the option to upgrade to 1.30 for the bugfixes and such, yet leave the mod unflagged for SoU.


If the mod makers for some reason do not want SoU people in thier mods, simply script a stop for people using those classes, skills, feats, spells...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know what the admins for Dyso are planning, but on my server, i would like to run v1.30, for bug fixes and new creatures, yet wait to have SoU content enabled until a majority of the players had it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sep wrote:
I dont know what the admins for Dyso are planning, but on my server, i would like to run v1.30, for bug fixes and new creatures, yet wait to have SoU content enabled until a majority of the players had it.


Uhm...

Using the 1.30 patch will flag the module as a 1.30 patch module, but it does not flag it as a SoU module, there are non-SoU 1.30 patches
As Glith said

Do you think that getting the 1.30 patch forces you to buy SoU to play your own module or what?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure if i am explaing correctly. I want 1.30, and i want to allow SoU clients, but dis-allows Sou classes and feats. I dont know, though, I many just say screw it and whoever ponies up to get SoU will have an advantage over the others.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sep, then you have nothing to worry about.

1. Upgrade your MOD/server to 1.30, but NOT SoU.
2. Player #1, who owns SoU, is automatically at 1.30, and can play on your MOD.
3. Player #2, who does NOT own SoU, simply upgrades to 1.30, and can play on your MOD.

You support anyone running 1.30 anyway they get it, but since you didn't actually upgrade to SoU, no SoU feats or classes, etc., are available. Viola!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must have misunderstood. I thought that by upgrading to 1.30 that SoU clients would be allowed to use the feats and skills, etc. while the rest could not.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sep wrote:
I must have misunderstood. --I thought that by upgrading to 1.30 that SoU clients would be allowed to use the feats and skills--, etc. while the rest could not.


Look, if you update to 1.30 not buying SoU, then SoU players can join and use SoU content in your module, the only way to "fix" this is to script like i said before, make scripts that boots anyone with SoU feats, skills, classes as soon as they join
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You support anyone running 1.30 anyway they get it, but since you didn't actually upgrade to SoU, no SoU feats or classes, etc., are available. Viola!

or

Look, if you update to 1.30 not buying SoU, then SoU players can join and use SoU content in your module

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PostTue 06/17/03 6:23pm
I'm 99% sure i read that in the bioware forums by one of the fellas with a big BioWare sign as avatar  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From: Bioware Posted: Friday, 06 June 2003 11:17AM
Quote: Posted 06/06/03 14:17:32 (GMT) by Netherscourge


Quote: Posted 06/06/03 06:04:31 (GMT) by Torias

So on a server running 1.30, will the people who have SoU be able to use
prestige classes, the new feats and spells and skills, while the people that don't
have SoU be restricted to just the stuff nwn comes with?

NO! The module would have to be created with SoU in order to have Prestige
Classes - therefore, you would need SoU installed to get into the module in
the first place.

Or so I assume... Aren't you a Bioware guy?

Actually that's not correct.
If you have SOU installed, you will be able to bring your prestige class character onto a server that doesn't have SOU installed.

If the server doesn't want to allow the prestige classes, then I believe there is a way to disallow pretige classses through scripting.

Torias is a BioModerator, not a BioWare employee.
BioModerators, are people from the community that volunteer their time to moderate the BioWare forums.


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PostTue 06/17/03 6:57pm
Ah, there you go icon_smile.gif  Reply with quote
 
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AH HA! Weird, but cool. Definitely redoing my chars!  Reply with quote
 
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http://nwn.bioware.com

Yep, it's released. Of course the availability at your local stores varies depending on shipping time and stuff. Here in Sweden for example it won't be available until June 27th. But it's officially released atleast.
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YEAH BABY I'LL HAVE IN MAH HOT LITTLE HANDS TOMORROW IF NOT TODAY!!!!

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Bah, i feel like downloading the crap until it comes to Sweden, can't play on the net, but at least i can get used to it and test out all new neat things icon_mrgreen.gif
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Wow, that was fast, sort of, SoU is already available to download... from certain places.. naughty.gif
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PostThu 06/19/03 5:27am
i thought SOU didnt work in multiplayer yet? or will we be using patch 1.30 beta?  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drudley wrote:
Wow, that was fast, sort of, SoU is already available to download... from certain places.. naughty.gif


hah i bet u have to share a cdkey or something like that, just buy the damn game
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Can't use SoU with a server running 1.3 Beta anything. BioWare has said (un)officially that the 1.30 Live is going out today, so if we simply upgrade the server, then anyone with 1.30 (whether or not they have SoU) can play, so we don't need to wait until everyone has SoU, just 1.30.

Man, I hope we get it soon. I've been cheating my way up to 20 and have had to change my pants several times because of so much of the new stuff.
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PostSat 06/21/03 2:15am
what would happen if you made a char with sou feats then had someone without sou log in as you and try to play???????????????????????  Reply with quote
 
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that would be crazy  Reply with quote
 
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more than crazy!#!@#!@ INS@NE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Reply with quote
 
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OMG ITS TRUE, SOO TRUE icon_cry.gif  Reply with quote
 
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I HAVE A VAGINA MADE OF STEEL!!!!!!!!!  Reply with quote
 
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YESSSSSSSSSSS IT SSSSSSSSSSSSS icon_mrgreen.gif icon_cry.gif
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Shadowleaf wrote:
Drudley wrote:
Wow, that was fast, sort of, SoU is already available to download... from certain places.. naughty.gif


hah i bet u have to share a cdkey or something like that, just buy the damn game



I will buy it the day it's here in Sweden, until then its single player only
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