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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 1:03 am    Post subject: Language Reply with quote

Simply I see no need for all the invective poor display of creativity in posts foul language thats creeping into posts. I suggest that the MODs immediately delete such posts.Unless they are quoting others stupidity.
While on it lets also automatically delete any IC post that has a ooc tag in it thats most annoying too.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 1:17 am    Post subject: Re: Language Reply with quote

M-K wrote:
Simply I see no need for all the invective poor display of creativity in posts foul language thats creeping into posts. I suggest that the MODs immediately delete such posts.Unless they are quoting others stupidity.
While on it lets also automatically delete any IC post that has a ooc tag in it thats most annoying too.


I think that's a bit... extreme...

me saying 'damn it' shouldn't be a problem, however if that seems to be a large chunk of my post, go ahead an delete it. IC posts with ooc dags, sometimes it's necissary to clear up any confusion or hostile intentions, and do so in a manner that's acceptable to nearly everyone else...

such as me killing Bak 3 times wasn't due to me disliking him, heck, we're good buddies, him and I. there was just a 100,000 gold conract on 3 skulls, with the killer prominantly displayed on them. I was simply getting rich, no hostile intent, my bad if anything was taken, and you RP'd it well...

Granted, this may be able to take place in tells, but the "wtf did you kill me for 3 times you jackass" position won't be given up until tempers have cooled a bit. they'll most likely rant about this in IC or CRF, and you may need an ooc remark to say "Hey, I have no problem with him, I was just getting my moneez" while having my character suitably punished.
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   oh ja, ik weet het zonet nog niet
Matthijs says:
   het ziet er toch wel een beetje naar uit dat we nederlands praten
Matthijs says:
   mischien moet ik dan maar eens vaker nederlands gaan praten
Matthijs says:
   kan je me ook meteen niet op al mijn spellinsfouten wijzen
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Little Teapot wrote:
...such as me killing Bak 3 times...


Huh? Bak, the dumb-ass half-orc barbarian? I must have missed that. Maybe I was asleep at the keyboard that night. icon_look.gif

Sorry to go off topic, just wanted to clear up my misunderstanding in Teapot's statement. icon_lol.gif

- Bak, the dumb-ass half-orc barbarian
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PostThu 06/05/03 7:35am
I swear all the bloody time, whats the big fucking deal?  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excessive language, heavy swearing, and what not is only allowed in the Complaints, Rants and Flames forum (and certain private forums of course icon_wink.gif ).
We already have rules against heavy swearing and foul language in all other forums. It's free game in here though.

Darn!
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PostThu 06/05/03 8:38am
Man, where would this forum be it it wasn't for vulgarity? icon_wink.gif  Reply with quote
 
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PostThu 06/05/03 9:59am
No-one beats Bak!! Except Nemor.. icon_mrgreen.gif  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Palladium wrote:
Man, where would this forum be it it wasn't for vulgarity? icon_wink.gif


Unvulgar perhaps?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, I actually agree with Uin here...:S

What's the big deal with swearing??? I don't get it, why are people insulted by someone saying Fuck or something similar. It's just weird, if I want to say fuck, let me. It's just a word, it's not a crime or anything like that.

Ofcourse, if things get excessive something should be done about it(eg. Jon), but a little swearing should be possible at it's time.

I mean, I hate that attitude of "No, don't swear, don't say some words!!!! I don't like those words." I you don't like those words, you shouldn't go to an internet forum in the first place, and you could also just ignore the swearing...
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PostThu 06/05/03 2:08pm
Well crap my balls! I burned those darn muffins! icon_mad.gif  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

M-K wrote:
Palladium wrote:
Man, where would this forum be it it wasn't for vulgarity? icon_wink.gif


Unvulgar perhaps?


No that's *what* it would be if it wasn't for vulgarity. As for *where*, it would still be right here.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nemor wrote:
No-one beats Bak!! Except Nemor.. icon_mrgreen.gif

icon_rolleyes.gif Oh, really? icon_cool.gif


At least let us potty-mouths have ONE place to purge!

But I agree that the tone should not become so harsh that it is threatening. And if conflict surges with personal insults, etc., in another section of the forums, it should be taken to PM ASAP.


Kindo wrote:
Well crap my balls! I burned those darn muffins! icon_mad.gif

If you scrape them with a knife they'll be good as new! (the muffins, that is)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont look at me, i dont cuss much at all and very rarely at that even when it is deserved, singling me out as someone like that is very racist of you...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, Jon I had to pick some example, and as far as I can remember, you were VERY abusive with words(I seem to remember posts with nothing but Fuck them, screw them and other such words in it....).

By the way, I still find making cussing or anything similar illegal a bit narrowminded, what good will it do YOU or OTHERS to get it banned?
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PostThu 06/05/03 4:37pm
Fact remains, heavily foul and offensive language is not allowed on these forums, with exception for Compaints, Rants and Flames.  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

woo hoo for kindo, yeah and all my cussing that i have done is in there or in a private forum... w00t. im blamefree!!! *mumbles* (except for a few minor thingies, not unlike some other people... *grumble*)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've sworn once on the server without it being ooc: or (( and I apologized afterward.

I don't agree with banning them because outbursts are common and could well get half the server banned, I do feel however, that jailing or boot each time they do will suffice.

Also, I saw on another server some sort of monster that when you swore or use abbreviations such as "rofl, omg, tbh" etc. It would slay you, I don't think it should slay you, perhaps knock half of your life off you or make you blind for a few minutes, something to that effect.

Only problem is, it means more coding and effort from the DM's and as I realize it, they're busy enough with Rebirth at the moment, so, I'll kindly shut my trap and go now icon_mrgreen.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh, christ.. this thread has gotten out of hand.
It's become a place for people to say "oh big fuckin' deal" and rub it in M-K's face.

also, Bak, I was just using you as an example. you were the first person to come to mind, and I didn't feel like "killing" griff...
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Matthijs says:
   oh ja, ik weet het zonet nog niet
Matthijs says:
   het ziet er toch wel een beetje naar uit dat we nederlands praten
Matthijs says:
   mischien moet ik dan maar eens vaker nederlands gaan praten
Matthijs says:
   kan je me ook meteen niet op al mijn spellinsfouten wijzen
There you have it! indisputable proof Solo's a fascist!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trust me on this.
TRUST ME ON THIS!
Having a censor in the server isn't a bad thing at all. If you have ever played firearms with me on a server without a censor, 12 year old kids pop in and use their high pitched voices on VOICECOM and swear at everyone and then swear at the other team and call them hackers.
to quote Orwell's 1984:
"...if you have the freedom to say 2+2=4, all else is entailed...."
Unban swearing? You have a gaint horde of personal insults being thrown left and right with no escape in sight. Even worse than there is now. Trust me on this one, if you trust me on anything to preserve this thing, trust me on this.

Of course, the occasional "damn, hell, sucks" and even an occasional "fuck" is alright from time to time, but kill the censor, and all other insults, personal remarks, and rude behavior will be entailed.

Now go and play the damn game.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Profanity doesn't bother me, personally. I try not to take people too seriously because I know I can come across as harsh sometimes, especially in text-only communication. But when it's obvious fury... it should be taken out of game and out of character in PMs.

Little Teapot wrote:
also, Bak, I was just using you as an example. you were the first person to come to mind, and I didn't feel like "killing" griff...

icon_lol.gif ... too bad... Bak was going to ask for some of that gold!
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PostFri 06/06/03 1:45am
no, no more posting here agree or disagree
the topic of discussion is over
Masako is right
seriously
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not_so_unique
PostFri 06/06/03 2:18am
The bottom line is:

It's up to the devs/dms/mods to determine.
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Jon316
PostFri 06/06/03 3:28am
cussing is bad, cussing is wrong!!! ban ban ban!!!!...

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Uin
PostFri 06/06/03 7:30am
Swearing for Kung!!!  Reply with quote
 
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